Mental health check-in and what we learned from our parents: Conversations with Sisters

On last week’s episode (Spotify | Apple), Lindsay Williams gave us the blueprint on how to truly connect with our clients and partners. Today, Courtney and Dana talk about that connection with couples they’ve worked with, what they’ve each inherited from their mom and dad, and what happens when they have a mental health check-in.


Dana: I don’t have a problem letting something go. I just have to know that I tried my hardest before I can let it go. Otherwise I will always have that what if, and that’s true for anything in my life. That’s true for a relationship. That’s true for a business venture. And so when something goes awry and my first instinct is like, I don’t want to fucking do this anymore. I want to let this go. But then the back of my mind, I’m like, well, you haven’t tried. You haven’t really tried. It’s not, well-planned out. It’s not well-executed. You know, and, and the idea, the reason why you said you were going to do this is because the idea was good. 

Courtney: Welcome to Hustle and Gather, a podcast about inspiring the everyday entrepreneur to take the leap. I’m Courtney, 

Dana: And I’m Dana,

Courtney: and we’re two sisters who have started multiple businesses together, and yes, it’s as messy as you think. We know that starting a business isn’t easy. 

Dana: I mean, we’ve done it four times. And on this show, we talk about the ups and downs of the hustle and the reward at the end of the journey. 

Courtney: And we love helping small businesses succeed, whether that is through our venue consulting, speaking, team training, we love to motivate others to take those big leaps. 

Dana: Or you can just use our misadventures to normalize the crazy that is being an entrepreneur, because every entrepreneur makes mistakes.

Courtney: And we like to call those unsuccessful attempts around here. 

Dana: And we know it’s just part of the process. And today we’re talking, just the two, of us about last week’s episode with Lindsay Williams, a wedding stationaire and educator based in Niagara Falls, New York. Through personality pack content and out of this rural customer service, Lindsay has grown her wedding stationary company from 30 K to 300 K in yearly revenue in just five years. if you haven’t heard last week’s episode, go give it a listen and come back to hear our thoughts. 

Courtney: All right. Let’s get started. 

Dana: I love that, I thought that was a great episode. 

Courtney: Yeah. I like how, when she was talking about sales that really, she wasn’t good at sales right away. And she said the reason that she even booked those 12 clients, it was because of her mother. So it made me think of: what did I get from my mama?

Dana: I think mom’s always been great at people. Like, I’ve always thought she can connect with pretty much anybody. And I think that she like can put herself in anybody’s shoes, you know? I think it’s a great skill and I think I’ve gotten that from her. 

Courtney: Like your empathy? 

Dana: I think empathy, but I think more importantly, like if you were to just stick mom in a room with a bunch of random people, maybe the most opposite of who she is, she would still find a way to connect with them.

Yeah, in some way, on some level. And she could still be appropriate. Even if she like disagreed with their life, with everything they were going to do, she would just get along, connect, and be fine. 

Courtney: I agree with that. I think that a lot of your empathy came from mom though. Like growing up, it was never a thought for mom to like put herself out, to help somebody else or to give a meal or to do a meal or to have someone live at your house. Like we had random people living at our house. 

Dana: Well, they weren’t random people. 

Courtney: They were random to us. 

Dana: Yeah. But they weren’t like strangers off the street. 

Courtney: But I’m saying it, but it also wasn’t like your aunt visiting from Ohio. It was some random person from church, or like a friend of a friend that needed a space. Like, yeah for example, I think they practically gave away their first house to that family that needed at our church. Like they were always one to like, I think you get this for mom, to be able to put themselves out a little bit, to be able to help somebody else. The good trait you got from her. I did not get that necessarily.

Dana: No, you did not. 

Courtney: Yeah, but I know, but I feel like I got a lot of my like hopefulness probably for mom. Like I optimism with very optimistic people. 

Dana: You guys are very optimistic. 

Courtney: Both of us are very like, oh, he’s going to be better. It’s going to be better. It’s going to be better. And I think that keeps us moving forward. so I think I got that. 

Dana: Well in a similar vein, she talked about that wonderful little nugget that we’re going to go in deeper than her father said. What is like maybe the one big piece of advice that dad gave you?


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Hustle and Gather is hosted by Courtney Hopper and Dana Kadwell, and is produced by Earfluence.  Courtney and Dana’s hustles include C&D Events, Hustle and Gather, and The Bradford Wedding Venue.


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