On last week’s episode, Kelly Breakstone Roth brought up conscious consumerism – being aware of what we’re buying at where it came from. But why do we purchase the things that we do? Is it because we need them? Or because it validates us in some way?
Plus, we explore regret and the concept that, if you have no regrets in life, you’ve never examined yourself enough to make a change.
Transcript
Dana: It was 10 years later. This is make or break at time. Like, I don’t have time to dick around with this. It just needs to work. Whereas before we’re like, eh, fails, we’ll just live in the house, a fine house to live in. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like it’s a very different mentality. And so to me when she said that, and the question is, are you ever too old to reinvent yourself? And I think the answer’s no, I think you can always do it.
Courtney: Welcome to Hustle and Gather, a podcast about inspiring the everyday entrepreneur to take the leap. I’m Courtney
Dana: And I’m Dana
Courtney: and we’re two sisters who have started multiple businesses together, and yes, it’s as messy as you think. We know that starting a business isn’t easy.
Dana: I mean, we’ve done it four times. And on this show, we talk about the ups and downs of the hustle and the reward at the end of the journey.
Courtney: And we love helping small businesses succeed, whether that is through our venue consulting, speaking, team training, we love to motivate others to take those big leaps.
Dana: Or you can just use our misadventures to normalize the crazy that is being an entrepreneur, because every entrepreneur makes mistakes.
Courtney: And we like to call those unsuccessful attempts around here.
Dana: cuz we know it’s just part of the process. And today we’re talking just the two of us about last week’s episode with Kelly Breakstone Roth co-founder and CEO of The Nopo. The Nopo connects online shopper to exceptional artisans in some of the most intriguing markets around the world by bridging geographical distances and language barriers, facilitating safe and secure payment, providing reliable and efficient shipping and promoting fair trade. They enable both a comfortable and stimulating consumer experience.
Courtney: All right. Dana let’s get started.
Dana: All right. So there were so many things, let’s jump right into, I think one of the biggest things was when she talked about conscious consumerism and I talked a little bit about this in the podcast about how, the way that I, I feel like the last three or four years has really made me think about what I buy and how I buy it, doesn’t change a hundred percent. Like there’s still things I probably like still shop at Walmart You know, still go target.
Courtney: Yeah. It’s unavoidable. I think that I’ve always been on some level, a conscious consumer. I was never an accumulator. Do you know what I’m saying? Like, everything was like very intentional, especially like, I, I guess when I’m thinking about my house, let’s say, or like clothing that I buy, like, I’ve always been very thoughtful as to like my taste or what I like or it’s something had to have a meaning, like most of my pictures are from trips or from memories that like I look at and I want to remember being there Like I’ve never really been one to just put something on the wall, just to put something on the wall. You know? Yeah. In general, , that being said, like definitely bought my fair share of Ikea things and like to fill a gap and whatnot.
Dana: I don’t know much about Ikea’s practices. I know they talk a lot about sustainability, although yeah.
Courtney: But I definitely think as I’ve gotten older and like had more finances to think about how I’m going to spend those finances. I mean, sometimes I think you make decisions out of necessity. Cause you only have money for what you have.
Dana: But that’s my biggest question, do you think conscious consumerism comes with privilege? Like you can’t be consciously consumed when you don’t have the money to spend more money on something.
Courtney: I do think that, it’s a conversation for when you have money.
Dana: Yeah. But I think it’s also, it’s hard to break out habits otherwise, you know, like it’s hard to break out of things when you, and, and like one of the biggest things now, not just, you know, talking about housing house stuff or whatever, but it’s clothes. Like there’s all this conversation About how wasteful we are with clothes. Like how much clothes end up in a landfill and consistently throw our way. And I think Levi’s has this big campaign of like, buy better, wear it longer.
Like spend more money on a pair of jeans so you can wear it you know, six, seven years as opposed to spend less pair on a jeans, and then you’re going through four pairs of jeans in six, seven years.
Courtney: Yeah. I feel like for the most part, I’ve always really kind of been that way.
Dana: Yes and no, but I can’t say that I’m gonna buy, I will buy staples, good staples But you, I’m not gonna buy like a $50 tank top because it’s a $50 tank top, same thing as a $10 tank top
Courtney: Well, that doesn’t matter. Like what, I mean, you, some things you can only be so conscious about. I know, but it’s gonna wear out.
Dana: I know, but I’m saying like, and like to me with the kids, like, I, I, we don’t really buy like super expensive things at, at certain ages when they’re just outgrowing it. Or they ruin them Yeah. Cause whats the point in that.
Courtney: And I think that, I mean, we would both agree that we would be willing to spend more money on something that we know was ethically sourced And an artisan produced. Like, I love that about her pieces. But I think I haven’t gotten there with like my kids clothes. No, like, it’s all about just what is useful and what they need at the time.
Dana: Yeah. But maybe it’s just about like, I think too is like, I was talking to Ada about this the other day she was picking up a room and I was like, Ada I was like, I haven’t seen you wear anything super cute to school in a long time.
She wears like the same sweater or the same jeans, the same shoes. all the time. And she has all these clothes and maybe it’s just pairing that down. Maybe it’s realizing they don’t need to have 20 outfits, cause they’re not gonna wear ’em They’re gonna wear five On repeat And you have that.
And then, and then maybe it is just being more conscientious about trying to shop in the Goodwill or something like that Because half the clothes she wears, she got at the Goodwill because there’s actually very nice things there Like, but it’s giving it extra life It’s not a cost thing. It’s not, you know, I wanna spend less money. It’s just, I have a hard time spending money on something that I know she’s gonna wear three times
Courtney: I liked how she, when she was talking kind of about her idea to even start The Nopo is she found herself in her other positions, like in the military and the government. And she called herself an intrepreneur, which I thought was super interesting, meaning she was constantly trying to like reinvent and change things that she could control, like in the environment that she was in company Yeah. I thought was really interesting.
Dana: Yeah. I think that, I think it’s almost like a, you might be a good entrepreneur if…
Courtney: This reminds me of the, a little bit on like a more like satirical funny side of when we were talking with Morgan and how she said that she’s unemployable by, every company that she’s ever worked for, because she thought she was gonna own that company Like she worked it like she was gonna own it And she constantly was butting heads with like the management or the bosses or whatever.
Dana: Yeah. I definitely think there’s a balance There for sure. But no, but I really love that because I think that not everyone, and she talked about that, like how being an entrepreneur in a lot of ways is a privilege. Like you have the privilege to not take a salary for a few years. Sure, you get a privilege of having a partner that can carry the weight of, you know, raising the children and stuff like that.
like, and so there’s some people who don’t have that opportunity, and I think that as a boss, that is what I always want to instill in my employees. Not that I want them to go start their own companies or anything, but I would a hundred percent support everyone in our company right now who wanted to, I would support them in that.
But I want them to feel like they own a piece of it. Like that they, that they have the, the ability to change, you know, a process or to look at something and say, this is stupid. Why are we doing it this way? Let’s change it You know what I mean?
Courtney: I think that whoever we hire does kind of have that like, like loyalty ownership, like I’m gonna make this better, kind of thing in them, but I think that we foster that in our business and I think it actually makes less entrepreneurs, because I think that they’re fulfilled where they are.
You know, I think that’s one of the things that makes somebody loyal is if they feel like they have ability to change their surroundings.
Dana: Well, and I think, you know, going back to what you said about Morgan, I think you did to figure out, like we talked about this often who you are as a boss who you want on your team And she says like, one of her piece of advice was, getting the right people on the bus. Yeah.
Which I think the right people on my bus is gonna be different than the right people on somebody else’s bus.
And I think that that like is such an interesting thing. And I think that when she talks about like how her time with the Israeli government really showed her that, who she needed to be on her team, how her team needed to be managed in a lot of ways, like figuring out who those people are.
Courtney: Or that the right or wrong people can really like make or break a campaign or make or break a business You know? Yeah. I think that’s equally as important as knowing who should not be on your bus.
Dana: A hundred percent.
Courtney: So have you ever had anybody on your bus and you can’t say me cuz I’m not going anywhere, but maybe it is that you’ve wanted to kick off your bus?
Dana: There have definitely been, I mean our, our worst hire, I would say is a person I felt like I wanted to get, I wanted to kick them off the bus because yeah. I’ve I felt it very deeply that they were destroying our company culture. I mean, personally, just some friendships I’ve had to let go, but just as they just, you know, made me feel bad about myself or they didn’t serve me in that time of my life. Or I felt like I consistently was saying, sorry about something I couldn’t control, you know? Yeah. Like, and I just have created the, those boundaries. There’s people, I would love to kick off the bus that I can’t, you know, cause they’re like family and, but they make me upset, but you know,
Courtney: but they’re permanently on the bus. They’re there. They might be driving it.
Dana: They might be driving it. . Yep What about you?
Courtney: Like I remember, I think I’ve talked about this before that I was a nanny for a family for years and years and years. Like six or seven years and I realized how badly this person made me feel about myself and the guise of being someone that loves me and cares about me, you know, but it just really made me feel like so bad. like, I wasn’t good enough, no matter what I did. I mean, like pluck my eyebrows the right way, you know, like, it was all these things.
And one point I just woke up one day and I was like, I don’t need this. Like, I don’t need to interact with you. Like, I don’t need your validation. like, you’re doing nothing but harming me. and I totally like ended the relationship. It just big wall Done. And I’ve seen that person a couple of times, like since then just happenstance or whatnot. And every time I see them, it’s just like affirming that. Oh yeah. That was the right decision Yeah. Like every single time.
Dana: Has there been anybody that like, surprisingly like became, and maybe she talks kind of going back to what she talked about about how you should have like advisors and people. And I, and I feel like those are people that would be on your bus, right?
The people that you advised and we’ve talked about our board of directors before. So you go to that again, but has there been anyone that has surprised you recently that maybe sneaked their way onto your bus and you didn’t realize it.
Courtney: Yeah. Probably people in the industry Like that. I didn’t think that I needed connections with, but I’m actually really close with . like someone like, like Vicky with Rocky top , you know, like such a good friend and such a good supporter Like Lynn Graves actually is like a super good friend and a great supporter. And I didn’t never thought of myself as someone who like needed a tribe Like I just needed like a core And I definitely feel like I have a lot of friends in the industry like, I didn’t know that I needed, right.
Or that I can talk to even, even some of the like younger up and coming people that I was like, who is this pips squeak, trying to take our corner lot, you know, or whatever. Like,, Chelsea with the Gathering Co like, I really respect her as a player. Yeah, and I remember when she first came on the scene, I was like, Who are you? like literally, you know? Yeah. But actually I feel like I can talk with her yeah. About business things And I find what she does inspiring You know, and I never thought that I would get there But I think there’s just something too about being really comfortable and settled with who and what your business is and what you bring to the table that allows you to be like really welcoming and open to other people. Do you know what I mean? Yeah
Dana: So for me, like, so we hired Megan, our publicist in September. And so she was on our bus because I hired her to be on my bus. Like she’s, I’m paying for her to sit in this seat. And I just, and the relationship was very much like that. And so recently we were in California, get to spend some time with her. We’ve have always enjoyed who she is as a person, she’s highly entertaining, just so entertaining Fun to be around and just always happy, always happy, very optimistic. Well, we had this chat after Cater Source and, we didn’t get a gig and it was like, just grating on me or whatever.
And I said something in our conversation that like later on bothered me that I said it. And so I sent her an email and I was like, Hey, like, I said this statement and I didn’t really mean for it to come out that way.
Courtney: This is all news to me. I have no idea.
Dana: Yeah. This is what I meant to say. This is where that’s coming from. It’s a little bit of rejection whatever. And then I was saying like, like I’m just a little, like, I’m a little sour about what that we didn’t get this gig. And, you know, I feel like I played the game. I feel like I’ve worked so hard for this organization, blah, blah, blah, all this stuff, and just wanted to say, thanks, thanks for being in our corner.
I know we’re on the cusp, blah, blah, blah, whatever. And she wrote back this really nice email and it took a good day. She’s like I wanted to write something thoughtful. I had a ton of meetings, whatever and she shared a really personal story about validation and how it needs to come from within, like, it can’t be from an outside source.
Like you, if you’re striving to get validated by somebody else, then you’re, it’s always gonna fail Like you’re never gonna get that validation has to come from what you know, you’re doing. And it was just like a really nice email. And I was like, and it was just such a powerful thing made me realize like, she’s right.
And I, would’ve never gone to her in that capacity to like, give me advice or speak Something, not that, I mean, I think that she can, but it just, I didn’t realize that she was no longer a paid seat on my bus. She’s just on my bus Do you know what I mean? and then, so that’s kind of what made me think of it when she was saying that like, advisors that you just maybe didn’t realize were there.
Yeah. That all of a sudden, like show themselves to it, but yeah. But those great piece of advices, making sure you get the right people on that bus.
Courtney: Cuz I mean, I think it’s definitely like a journey for sure. Like entrepreneurship. I think that’s like one of the common things with everybody, for the most part, if they’re willing to talk about it, is that entrepreneurship as a journey. And, and she mentioned that like, nothing happens all of a sudden, but basically you’re doing all these things and you’re growing into what you become. I felt like she gave herself a, a lot of work, but also like a lot of grace to like, be able, like make those mistakes and work through those things and talk with her advisor and ask people questions because she realized that like, I’m not where I wanna be, but I’m growing.
Dana: But do you feel like that comes from because she talks about, like she said it, like I 40 was looming and if I was gonna do, I was gonna reinvent myself now is the time. And I think, I think there is something a little bit more, you have a little more weight to it when you are at, at that turning point in your life.
Where I feel like sometimes when I look at our journey and our path, we weren’t at a turning point in our life. We were just like this,
Courtney: we were at a discovery, a discovery point.
Dana: Yeah. We, but it was just, it was just adding onto our current life. It wasn’t like we were doing this thing and then we’re gonna take this big, like, change , you know, we’re like, Hey, we’re gonna do this for a little bit.
Let’s be on the side, on the side. And then, okay. It’s slowly just taking over more and more and more of our life until it’s, you know, situated itself there where I feel like for her, she was reinventing what she was herself completely, so that there was almost, I don’t wanna say more invested in it, but like the process, maybe more invested into the actual process of it. More weight was given to it.
Courtney: Well, sure. But I mean, I think about where you’re at now, like being 40, assuming she’s 40. So she’s about to turn 40 and having three kids and having a successful career. And then the thought of upending that, and taking away from, from what you know is gonna take away from your family and your kids and your life. There is a lot more invested in it. There is more weight.
So, I mean, I think that. I think there’s that, but I think there’s also more confidence because you’ve already weathered some things and there’s not the same. Like the only way I could describe it is like spastic . like, everything’s not the end of the world. Right? things are gonna be successful and things are going to fail. Some things are gonna be great. Some things are gonna be so, so, and that’s fine. like, that’s how life is, you know what I mean? It’s not like you’re gonna knock it outta the park every time you do something.
But I think when you start something, when you’re young and you don’t have that barometer of life to reflect on it’s like you had this expectation, then it’s just gonna be knocked outta the park. And when it doesn’t it’s like tragedy.
Dana: No, I just think when you’re older, you have, you have a more clear picture of who you wanna be. Like, you have a path of reinvention, like, okay, this is where I am. This is where I want to be. And it may not end up being exactly like that. Like it may deviate some and you may go on this path and this path, but you’re, you’re so leaned into the process because you’re like, I’m, I’m changing the trajectory of my life. Whereas I, I feel like for us, we weren’t changing the trajectory of our life.
Courtney: Well, we were, we just didn’t know it.
Dana: No, right. We didn’t know it. So like the process seemed long, it seemed daunting. It seemed overwhelming. And then, and then there are certain points in our business. I can look at it and say, this is when we decided to change a trajectory.
And it wasn’t like a complete 360 and like, we started a whole new business or anything like that, but we did, you know, Decide that we were gonna change the path that we were on. And the process of that we leaned into that process more easily. We believed in that more ease, like more than maybe before.
Right? Right, right. Like I think too, like if we were, I think back to like, we built the Bradford same situation, everything was the same other than our age It was 10 years later. I feel fairly confident that we would’ve walked into it with a completely different financial mindset. Sure. It would’ve been all in a hundred percent.
Yeah. It would’ve been this like scary little tip toe into it Because at that point it’s gonna be like, this is make or break at time. Like, I don’t have time to Dick around with this. It just needs to work. Whereas before we’re like, eh, fails, we’ll just live in the house, a fine house to live in. You know what I mean?
Yeah. Like it’s a very different mentality. And so to me when she said that, and the question is, are you ever too old to reinvent yourself? And I think the answer’s no, I think you can always do it.
Courtney: I hope not. I mean, I feel like then that’s like being stagnant, you know what I mean? Yeah. But I’m sure at some point you get too tired to reinvent yourself Like at some point, do you just, but then I think too, like even when you retire, isn’t that like you’re reinvention. Like you’re onto something different onto something new. I think so. So I hope not.
Dana: Well, I dunno if I mentioned this before, but I was listening to, Glenn and Doyle’s podcast about regret and she, they were talking about like their deepest regrets they had in life.
Courtney: And I think you have, but I am having some brain fog.
Dana: So yeah, it, so she basically said that if you don’t have any regrets, it means you’ve never changed Like. You were people, regret is a indication that you have changed That who you are has changed because it’s, you wouldn’t have handled it the same way. Right? Yeah. And I think it was, it wasn’t like a way to say, okay, you have a free pass to act like an asshole or anything like that. But it was like, okay, you have a free pass to forgive yourself. Because if you can look back at a situation and say, oh, I have no regrets with how I handled it, then you have not changed or evolved in any way Right. Which I thought was like super powerful. And I think that, I hope that I hope they’ll always have regrets. I hope I’ll look back in 10 years and regret this year, what we did today Or I’ll regret an interaction I had or regret, you know, all these things, because I hope that I am always changing. I’m always evolving I’m always reinventing.
Courtney: I think that’s probably true. absolutely. One of the things that I found, like the most interesting about her story is the fact that she grew up in Israel and they have that mandatory two years of military service, which I guess she like moved into like 10 or 15 years of government service. I’m assuming it’s similar. Sure. Which I can’t really like wrap my mind around like graduating from high school and then going directly into military service.
But then at the same time, I see some value in it as well. Yeah, sure. Like where there’s a better understanding and almost like a stewardship of the country that you live in. that I think. Would be beneficial but then I couldn’t imagine, like what role would I have played in some mandatory military? do you have to go through basic training?
Dana: I don’t know. I think maybe it depends on what you’re doing But,, I don’t know. I think it, I think it is super interesting. I think it’s something that would never happen in America ever.
Courtney: Like, because they would feel like it would be like impeding upon their rights.
Dana: Oh, a hundred percent something a hundred percent. I think it would be a. I think it would be the most corrupt thing in the world that the rich don’t have to do it. And yeah, it would just become another like social barrier in some way.
Courtney: Israel’s a significantly smaller country.
Dana: I mean, there is that too. What I loved about it when she talked about how it was a melting pot, so it didn’t matter. Like it was not like you know, like the rich people were here, the poor people were here. It was like, everyone was together from all different backgrounds, from all different, you know, socioeconomic places.
Like everyone was, had the same goal, the same task, the same everything Which I love that about it And I think, and I think that is what breeds compassion, and it breeds, empathy, empathy, empathy. cause you start to see yourself in somebody else that you never would’ve like hung out with or went to something super scary, like, and she talked about some people got out, it traumatized cuz they, you know, saw combat.
But can you imagine hating someone being told to hate someone so much and we’re dealing with this right now in our country because the color of their skin and then you’re going through a traumatic event with them where they had to have your back and maybe they helped get you through this thing.
Like how different you’re gonna look at that person because of that, like. I mean, I, I don’t know. I don’t, I don’t think it’s a, I don’t think it’s a completely negative thing. It would be a hard thing as a parent parent Because there would be a lot of fear, but I, I don’t think I would begrudge it.
Yeah. Well, especially if there was lots of options.
And especially if it’s just short, it’s like two years, two years Like I can see it’d be different if feels like four or five. Like that seems a little intense, but taking an 18 to 20 year old, who’s thinks they know everything Give them some life experience and then decide like, okay, I wanna go be a doctor. I wanna go be a teacher. Your whole life is still ahead of you. And then you’re just pushing, like them being an adult till 24. I mean, there’s nothing negative about that.
Courtney: Yeah. I definitely think there definitely. I think possibly more positives than negatives.
Dana: I think there is more positives if it’s, if it’s run right. Yeah And she was saying how it’s like, for the most part, they have a great reputation. Obviously there’s bad apples. And I hate every time you talk about something, that’s great. You have to be like, oh, but then theres always exceptions. There’s always gonna be exceptions. There’s always gonna sure Assholes to it, but.
Courtney: Yeah, but I mean, I think it would probably make more socially conscious and for the most part, you know, for the part productive, right. Adults that care about the country, right. That they’ve served for.
Dana: Right. Well then they care about everybody in the country. Cause you’re not just protecting one group of people you’re protecting Every single person that was born on that soil No matter what you agree or don’t agree with, I think it’s super interesting.
So I really love this statement that she made., we’re just kinda like bouncing all over the place here, but,, she, she was talking about how she was this avid traveler and she loved to get lost in the streets.
and she found these beautiful pieces of art or things with artisans, but they were, you only really only find them when you get lost.
Courtney: Yeah. Just like what a metaphor for life,
Dana: for life. I know And so it made me think about not necessarily art I have found when I’ve gotten lost. Cause I definitely found some super interesting things going on some random ass straits in different countries. But like, what is it that you have found maybe about yourself, maybe about business, like in the midst of being very lost.
Courtney: I definitely think that, I mean, I’ve talked about it before on the podcast or I’ve went through 36, 37, very, very lost. I’m not saying I’m like completely 100% found, but being able to have that feeling of like, who am I?
Like, what do I stand for? Like, what do I want out of life? And like asking those really hard questions, I think, really anchored me. and I would say as far as like life and business in general, like when I felt lost, it’s a little less scary to me. Like I understand my tenacity. Like I understand my will.
I understand my ability to refine or re anchor, so it doesn’t scare me so much to be lost. And there’s actually, I, I felt that way kind of at the beginning of, 20, 22 end of 2021, like we were walking into this year and it’s been a hard year in terms of just work and volume and volume of stuff. But I remember walking into it feeling like a great unknown, like I did not know where 2022 was gonna end up at the beginning of it.
, you know, and there’s something really exciting about that. Like, there’s something that I really like about not knowing and letting that path kind of unfurl in front of me. so I think you stay curious when you’re lost, keeps you open and I think it opens new possibilities, because you’re less control. You don’t have control, so It’s gotta take with the universe gives you. Sure. . What about you? Are you ever lost Dana?
Dana: Yeah. I mean, I think the, I think the point of it all, and I think where this metaphor comes in is shoes saying how you find the value. You find the beauty. You can only find that when you get lost.
And I think that there is a lot of truth to that. that even in business, when I think about the most loss we’ve ever been, you know, I think back to the first time, like when Bailey. We were like, oh my God, what are we gonna do? We cried about it, but so much beauty came out of it. Yeah And I think that every time that we’ve, we’ve come to this point where we’re trying to find our way through the forest and get to the other side of it.
Like we are shutting things we don’t need, we’re picking up things that we do need and we’re, we’re just fine tuning it. So the next time we’re on that path, it’s a little bit more clear what it’s supposed to be. Yeah And I, I just, I just, when she said that, it just made me think of it. Like, that’s just like a beautiful way to look at life in general.
It’s true Yeah. So I guess we gotta move on to the fuck up of the week and I know what yours is. You can go first.
Courtney: Yeah, my fuck up of the week is apparently COVID is not dead, and I was thinking that maybe when you’re in an airport, use this as a PSA or on an airplane, you should probably still wear a mask probably.
Cause it’s probably where you got it. It’s probably where I got it. so we. it’s amazing how close people are now. I mean, it feels like, I don’t know, stuff close. No, one’s wearing a mask and I got COVID coming back from California and I felt bad like on the flight back, but I thought it was just, and I felt panicky.
Like, it was very weird. Remember I was like super like anxious feeling, which is, I have some level of anxiety.
Dana: I was like, that’s not abnormal
Courtney: but I mean, I was like, yeah, like my body was feeling anxious I couldn’t keep my eyes open. like I was so, so tired. And then I woke up Saturday, really, really tired with a sore throat and then Sunday, same thing.
And I remember telling Dana about it. And then we had a talk, which is we were doing on, Tuesday for NACE, for, our organization at our venue that we were pinch hitting for somebody else who was in the hospital. with like a lung infection., and I was like, I’m gonna take this test just to make sure I was gonna be around all these people.
Of course it was positive. And I was like, wow, isn’t this just a repeat of January. when I had to go to Charlotte and do our talk just seemed very,, ironic, honestly, but yeah, so I think, not wearing the mask on the airplane and in the airport, I would highly recommend it, especially if you haven’t had COVID in a while. Yes. I even know what your week was like. Cause I haven’t seen you. What’s what was your fuck up of the week?
Dana: I don’t know. I think, I think is prob probably the biggest thing would’ve been Wednesday. Oh yeah, that was that’s a good one. So Ada was sick last week. She did not have COVID, but she had some kind of like cold or whatever. And, and I, I had a sneaky suspicion had developed into an infection and so Tuesday night she was up all night.
I actually called my mom and I was like, I can’t get her to stop coughing. Should I take her to the ER, like blah, whatever. And we got her to finally calm down and, called in the morning and she made a doctor’s appointment to get her checked out. Well, that was Wednesday morning and, and Bishop had to get neutered that morning as well.
And he had to go up to Wake Forest area and I had to do the CPR class with the team, which I was originally bowing out of because I was so busy. And then Courtney got COVID and we’re like, one of us has to be there. We should be there, whatever. So I was like, I’ll go. So the night before I give this talk right at NACE, and I’m leaving and I was like, Hey, where is the CPR class?
And Sarah’s like, oh, it’s on the calendar, but it’s in Carrboro, and I was like, okay. When she said Carrboro for some reason, my mind said, thought Morrisville, like, obviously. It’s not the same. So I get home, I’m telling Sam was like, okay. Originally, like he was gonna take Bishop to the vet. And I was like, Hey, I’ll go take Bishop because Morrisville is not too far.
I’ll be able to hop right back on 540 didn’t get there and you take eight to the doctor because I knew I couldn’t get to the doctor. And he was like, okay, sounds great. So I drive Bishop up, there its forever. I mean, Wake Forest in the morning’s terrible. And I gave myself plenty of time. I had like 30 minutes to get there.
I, I punch in the address and it says Carrboro, and I was like, what? And it was like 45 minutes away. And every, every two minutes it was 55 minutes, hour and 10 minutes cuz of all the traffic and I called Sarah and I was like, are we allowed to come late? And she was like, the guy said no
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Hustle and Gather is hosted by Courtney Hopper and Dana Kadwell, and is produced by Earfluence. Courtney and Dana’s hustles include C&D Events, Hustle and Gather, and The Bradford Wedding Venue.
