The masks we wear and why we need to keep failing: Conversations with Sisters

On last week’s episode (Apple Podcasts | Spotify), Ablr CEO John Samuel opened up about the masks he wore while losing his vision. Today, Dana and Courtney discuss the masks they wear and why it’s so important to keep failing.


Courtney: I don’t really believe in just luck, right. You know, like I believe in opportunity and then your readiness to accept that opportunity. You know what I mean? And together that forms luck, when that opportunity and your ability to accept that opportunity happen at the right moment, it feels very lucky.

Welcome to Hustle and Gather, a podcast about inspiring the everyday entrepreneur to take the leap. I’m Courtney, 

Dana: and I’m Dana,

Courtney: and we’re two sisters who love business. On this show, we talk about the ups and downs with the hustle and the reward at the end of the journey 

Dana: And we know all the challenges that come with starting a business. Between operating our wedding venue, doing speaking and consulting, and starting our luxury wedding planning company, we wake up and hustle every day.

Courtney: And today we’re talking, just the two of us, about last week’s episode with John Samuel, founder and CEO of Ablr. Ablr is a digital accessibility and inclusion company that was founded on the key principle that all digital content, including websites, videos, applications, are accessible for everyone. No exception. And if you haven’t heard last week’s episode, go give it a listen and come back to here our thoughts. 

Dana: All right Court, let’s get started. 

Courtney: It’s such a good episode. It’s such an inspiring story. 

Dana: I got emotional a couple times there. 

Courtney: I know, travel around the world and his like ability to not let a disability hinder his adventure. Yeah, I loved your question in the podcast of what would you tell your 18-year-old self? And he said to keep screwing up and to have faith that things are going to be okay. And what would you tell your 18-year-old self?

Dana: Well, at 18, I think that it was just, to never stop trying. Like I think there’s a, there was always a point in my life and I think especially as a young When I was young in college, I just thought that the decision I made was that this is one I had to make for the rest of my life. Yeah, and I almost, almost resigned myself to it. You know, I stopped trying to find my passion.

I just like, this is just must be what it is like, because I don’t have the answer. It’s what I said. I always want to do. I always wanted to be a teacher, and I think if I could go back and tell myself, it was just to keep trying, just keep trying to figure it out. Don’t settle. 

Courtney: Just keep moving forward. Keep making mistakes. 

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Hustle and Gather is hosted by Courtney Hopper and Dana Kadwell, and is produced by Earfluence.  Courtney and Dana’s hustles include C&D Events, Hustle and Gather, and The Bradford Wedding Venue.

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